What kind of joinery to use?

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  • David D
    Forum Newbie
    • Dec 2009
    • 65
    • Richmond, VA

    What kind of joinery to use?

    I'm making a new medicine cabinet for one of our bathrooms and am unsure about how to build the door. It will have a mirror, and I'm using 1x2 for the door frame. I plan on rabbeting the frame for the mirror as well as the back (think stair step).

    What I am not sure of is how to join the rails and stiles. The cabinet is going to be a traditional style and painted. I want to make the door inset (scary!), and use two mortised hinges. I have a Kreg pocket hole jig, but I'm not sure it will work due to the small size of the rails and stiles.

    Right now, my plan is to use Shaker style butt joints for the face frame, so the door frame will be the same.

    What do you guys recommend?
  • Condoman44
    Established Member
    • Nov 2013
    • 178
    • CT near Norwich
    • Ryobi BT3000

    #2
    I use glued pocket holes and fill them. Made a medicine cabinet with mirror door and it work fine so far for us.

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    • cwsmith
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2005
      • 2740
      • NY Southern Tier, USA.
      • BT3100-1

      #3
      For butt-joints, I use small dowels, probably two at each joint. If it were natural/stained wood, I'd probably even have them exposed on the outer surface; but since you're painting the cabinet, it makes no difference.

      You could also use a spline or small 'biscuit' across the joint, but I think the doweled joint is the easiest... much depends on you equipment/capabilities.

      I hope this helps,

      CWS
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      • dwitzke
        Forum Newbie
        • Feb 2003
        • 19
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        #4
        I would use mortise and tenon joinery for the door frame.

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        • atgcpaul
          Veteran Member
          • Aug 2003
          • 4055
          • Maryland
          • Grizzly 1023SLX

          #5
          Originally posted by David D
          Right now, my plan is to use Shaker style butt joints for the face frame, so the door frame will be the same.
          Do you mean stub tenon and groove, or are you really looking for a way to butt join the rails and stiles--the two pieces don't intersect at all?

          If there's no intersection, then I'd go with dowels.

          If they do intersect, then I think a bridle joint could be easily achieved with just your table saw--assuming you have one.

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          • trungdok
            Established Member
            • Oct 2012
            • 235
            • MA

            #6
            Since you will rabbet the back, half lap joint might be the easiest and strongest (not that you would need it to be) joint to use.

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            • BadeMillsap
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2005
              • 868
              • Bulverde, Texas, USA.
              • Grizzly G1023SL

              #7
              If I understand what you are doing a half lap would be my first choice

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              • Eric
                Senior Member
                • Jun 2003
                • 653
                • Cocolalla, ID
                • Grizzly G0691 & BT3100

                #8
                Or a bridle joint.

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                • capncarl
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                  • Jan 2007
                  • 3568
                  • Leesburg Georgia USA
                  • SawStop CTS

                  #9
                  I like a half lap joint for this application. I've used it many times for small table tops with glass tops inserts, much like a cabinet door with a mirror would be made.
                  capncarl

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                  • David D
                    Forum Newbie
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 65
                    • Richmond, VA

                    #10
                    Thank you for all the replies! I do have a table saw, a BT3000 as a matter of fact. I've also got a Bosch 1617 router mounted to it. I do not have a dado stack (yet).

                    Sounds like a half lap joint is the most popular suggestion, but how best to accomplish this with what I've got? Multiple passes on the table saw?

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                    • BadeMillsap
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2005
                      • 868
                      • Bulverde, Texas, USA.
                      • Grizzly G1023SL

                      #11
                      Without a dado set I'd do it with the table mounted router and as large a dado (flat top) bit as I could manage to minimize passes... Might be time to invest in a dado set

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                      • David D
                        Forum Newbie
                        • Dec 2009
                        • 65
                        • Richmond, VA

                        #12
                        A router bit like this?

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                        • BadeMillsap
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                          • Dec 2005
                          • 868
                          • Bulverde, Texas, USA.
                          • Grizzly G1023SL

                          #13
                          Yes... A good source is http://www.mlcswoodworking.com/shops...highlight=Dado

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                          • David D
                            Forum Newbie
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 65
                            • Richmond, VA

                            #14
                            Thank you!

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                            • trungdok
                              Established Member
                              • Oct 2012
                              • 235
                              • MA

                              #15
                              You could also just use the table saw to cut the half lap. Lay the piece down, do a cross cut, then stand it up and do a rip cut. Getting the exact fit will probably requires you to do some sanding or hand planing though.

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