Concrete Truck on Asphalt Driveway?

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  • phrog
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    • Jul 2005
    • 1796
    • Chattanooga, TN, USA.

    Concrete Truck on Asphalt Driveway?

    My neighbor has decided to build a patio in his back yard near my driveway. He told me the company that is going to build the patio can't get their concrete truck under the utility lines in his yard and, therefore, he asked if they could use my driveway. (This will happen in about 2 weeks.) Without thinking, I answered, "Yes." Afterward, I started thinking. Concrete is pretty heavy and those trucks are carrying a lot of weight. I'm wondering how that concentrated weight on my 45 year-old asphalt driveway is going to work. What do you guys think?
    Richard
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    • Jan 2003
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    • Ellensburg, Wa, USA.
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    #2
    I think you will be fine as long as the ground is dry under your asphalt and it has a good base. Concrete trucks have extra axles to carry the weight evenly distributed.
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    • atgcpaul
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      • Aug 2003
      • 4055
      • Maryland
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      #3
      Maybe you could ask that they put down sheets of plywood, too, to further spread the load.

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      • gerti
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        • Dec 2003
        • 2233
        • Minnetonka, MN, USA.
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        #4
        We had a driveway that wasn't in good shape to start with, and after some trucks had to use it it was in terrible shape. YMMV.

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        • LCHIEN
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          • Dec 2002
          • 20914
          • Katy, TX, USA.
          • BT3000 vintage 1999

          #5
          I once had a similar situation. I told them I wanted them to sign a document that they would pay to fix any damage to my driveway they caused.

          All of a sudden they found a new way to do it without using my driveway.

          You can rest assured that their using your driveway surely won't improve it any, and can only make it worse. Protect yourself.
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          • TB Roye
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            • Jan 2004
            • 2969
            • Sacramento, CA, USA.
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            #6
            I would defiantly sign something to protect you. They could always get a concrete pump it is extra cost but might save you driveway. Ask around and see what other Concrete companies say.or a highway/street person in city or county.

            Tom

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            • rberrybabylon
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              • Jul 2007
              • 38

              #7
              It sounds like you have a well-performing 45 year old asphalt pavement. The main degraders of asphalt pavements are poor drainage, usually along with poor subgrade, and heavy axle loads. The asphaltic cement which binds the aggregate together in your pavement loses its elasticity over time making the pavement more susceptible to cracking under heavy loading. Given the age of your driveway, I wouldn't expose it to any heavy trucks. The damage this could cause possibly would not be visible for months. This could make it difficult to enforce any agreement to cover damage.

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              • capncarl
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                • Jan 2007
                • 3564
                • Leesburg Georgia USA
                • SawStop CTS

                #8
                Under no conditions would I allow a concrete truck on my driveway. This is a good way to turn a good neighbor to the (pick appropriate curse word ) that lives next door. I've been in this situation many times, and usually on thicker and better surfaces than an asphalt driveway. They can leave the concrete truck on the road and dump the concrete in a gasoline powered wheelbarrow that is made for this purpose and drive it to the new patio area. They are called muck trucks, georgia Buggys power buggy etc. Most contractors want to get in and get out as quick and cheaply as possible and probably will not be responsible for paying for your new driveway, regardless what they say. If the contractor was worth his salt he would have suggested this in the first place and not placed your neighbor in this position! If he is inexperienced and doesn't know about this equipment it shouldn't be up to you to train him or be his first lawsuit. This buggy can be rented at any equipment rental outlet and is usually delivered /picked up at the job site by the rental co. It will add to the cost of the job and does increase the cost some but not as much as a new driveway. Pumping the concrete is another option but is even more expensive.
                capncarl

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                • Cochese
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                  • Jun 2010
                  • 1988

                  #9
                  It's a lot cheaper and easier to replace sod than it is a driveway.
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                  • twistsol
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                    • Dec 2002
                    • 2893
                    • Cottage Grove, MN, USA.
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                    #10
                    At 45 years old, it is pretty close to end of life anyway. if they did destroy it, you likely wouldn't have much of a claim against them regardless of the fact that you may get many more years of service out of it.
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                    • tfischer
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                      • Jul 2003
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                      • Plymouth (Minneapolis), MN, USA.
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                      #11
                      We put in a new driveway about 10!years ago and they specifically warned us that residential driveways aren't engineered for heavy trucks. Concrete is about as heavy of a truck as you're going to fit on your drive.

                      45 years is ancient for asphalt. Ours was not even 25 when it was replaced andost of the others in the neighborhood have been replaced about the same time.

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                      • twistsol
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                        • phrog
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                          • Jul 2005
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                          • Chattanooga, TN, USA.

                          #13
                          Originally posted by twistsol
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                          • twistsol
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                            • phrog
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                              • Jul 2005
                              • 1796
                              • Chattanooga, TN, USA.

                              #15
                              Thanks to all who have replied. I was leaning toward asking the Concrete Company to sign something to take responsibility for any damage. However, after reading all the comments, I think the best route is to ask the company to use another manner of access. Thanks again.
                              Richard

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