Johnson's Paste Wax Original Formula isn't Original Formula ???

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  • Lonnie in Orlando
    Senior Member
    • May 2003
    • 649
    • Orlando, FL, USA.
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    Johnson's Paste Wax Original Formula isn't Original Formula ???

    (I guess this qualifies for the Tool Talk forum)

    I bought a new can of Johnson's Paste Wax "The Original Formula" at HD or Lowe's a few months ago. I opened it for the first time today. Surprize! It's different to any Johnson's Paste Wax that I have ever bought in the last sixty years. It's kinda green instead of the familar yellow/orange color. It is soft and squishy ... I can easily poke my finger into it. Anyone else notice a change? Or did I buy a reject can?

    The can still says "The Original Formula"; the UPC is still 0 46500 00202 1; and it is still 16oz. The date code on the new can is KO54A1AJ. The date code on an old can that still has a little yellow/orange wax in it is A292CU. The outside of both cans (except for the date code) is identical.

    I also noticed a little rust or rust-like pitting on the inside of the top of the new can.

    The company web site(www.scjohnson.com) is down. Maybe lil green men from Mars took over the company!

    Thanks,

    - Lonnie
    OLD STUFF ... houses, furniture, cars, wine ... I love it all
  • sweensdv
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    • Dec 2002
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    #2
    I think that I would return it or at least check out the color of a few other tins. Unless the color is just a cosmetic feature with no actual value it would be a stretch to say it's made to the original formula.
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    • pushrod
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      • Dec 2003
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      • Panama City, FL, USA.
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      #3
      I just bought a new can last week and noticed the same thing.

      Maybe they no longer use 'High Fructose Corn Syrup'.

      \"The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.\"

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      • gsmittle
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        • Aug 2004
        • 2784
        • St. Louis, MO, USA.
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        #4
        Originally posted by pushrod
        I just bought a new can last week and noticed the same thing.

        Maybe they no longer use 'High Fructose Corn Syrup'.

        Cans from Mexico use cane sugar.

        g.
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        • Black wallnut
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          • Jan 2003
          • 4715
          • Ellensburg, Wa, USA.
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          #5
          Maybe they are just going green?!
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          • Stytooner
            Roll Tide RIP Lee
            • Dec 2002
            • 4301
            • Robertsdale, AL, USA.
            • BT3100

            #6
            The last can I bought was tan, brown color, but I did see an open can in a store that had a green hue.
            It is probably as close to the original formula as they can make it now with EPA. They may have simply banned the original dye color and now the closest thing is the green. Just a WAG.
            Lee

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            • thestinker
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 613
              • Fort Worth, TX, USA.

              #7
              Dang. This is what I use on my hardwood floors. I hope it still works the same.
              Awww forget trying to fix it!!!! Lets just drink beer

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              • parnelli
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                • Aug 2004
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                #8
                This thread from a couple years back on another forum discusses changes.

                SC Johnson says no change but color, but the discussion then centers around the MSDS no longer listing caranuba wax as an ingredient

                http://castboolits.gunloads.com/show...x-color-change.

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                • Lonnie in Orlando
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2003
                  • 649
                  • Orlando, FL, USA.
                  • BT3000

                  #9
                  A follow up to my green/squishy Johnson's Wax question ...

                  I send an email to SC Johnsons Consumer Relationship Center about the squishy consistency and putrid color of "The Original Formula" Johnson's Paste Wax.

                  > I received the same rhetoric that members of other forums had received.
                  "While the dye was removed from SC Johnson® Paste Wax in October, 2009, we would expect it to provide the same great results you've come to know over these past 60 years (thank you!)."

                  > So just to stir the pot I replied,
                  "Not necessarily saying "pants on fire", but it's difficult for me to understand how removing the dye from the product would cause the consistency to change from firm (which allowed a waxing cloth to pick up the correct amount of wax to apply a uniform amount on a project) to soft and squishy (which gobs onto a waxing cloth and sloshes around on the project.) Doesn't seem like those changes would allow the term "Original Formula" to be truthfully used on the container. Won't even discuss the putrid color."

                  > Sticking to their guns, their reply did not waiver ...
                  "The consistency of Johnson® Paste Wax should be "soft & squishy" although if a can was not sealed tightly or left open for some time, it would start to dry out. The removal of the dye is the only formula change it had and you are right about the color. It used to be a golden or orangey/brown but then we removed the dye -- it's more of a light brown or gray/green color now.

                  For awareness, the shelf like of a can of Paste Wax is 2 -3 years and our products folks tell me the can marked A292CU was produced in 2006."


                  Doggone - Looks like every can of Johnson's wax that I have bought for almost 60 years was out-of-date and had lost its squishyness.

                  - Lonnie
                  OLD STUFF ... houses, furniture, cars, wine ... I love it all

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                  • pelligrini
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                    • Apr 2007
                    • 4217
                    • Fort Worth, TX
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                    #10
                    I haven't bought a can of Minwax in a while. It is the same consistency and performance as my Johnson's.
                    Erik

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                    • phrog
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2005
                      • 1796
                      • Chattanooga, TN, USA.

                      #11
                      Anybody in Canada have this problem? Maybe, as Lee noted, it is a US EPA thing. Maybe you guys in Canada can start a smuggling business.
                      Richard

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                      • phrog
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2005
                        • 1796
                        • Chattanooga, TN, USA.

                        #12
                        Originally posted by pelligrini
                        I haven't bought a can of Minwax in a while. It is the same consistency and performance as my Johnson's.
                        Hey Erik, are you saying that Minwax makes a wax like Johnson's Paste? I haven't noticed it before.
                        Richard

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                        • sweensdv
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                          • Dec 2002
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                          #13
                          Originally posted by phrog
                          Hey Erik, are you saying that Minwax makes a wax like Johnson's Paste? I haven't noticed it before.
                          They sure do,
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                          • All Thumbs
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                            • Oct 2009
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                            #14
                            I'm guessing that the formula has changed in order to reduce production costs (wax being a petroleum-based product).

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                            • phrog
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2005
                              • 1796
                              • Chattanooga, TN, USA.

                              #15
                              Originally posted by sweensdv
                              Thanks, sweensdv. I'll have to give it a try when my current can of J.P.Wax runs out.
                              Richard

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