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  • jussi
    Veteran Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 2162

    soldering iron recommendations

    Any recommendations on a good soldering iron for rc hobby. I don't want to spend $200+ on a metcal so I'm thinking a Weller should be satisfactory. But there are tons of different models. Let me know which one you like. Hopefully ones that are still available.
    I reject your reality and substitute my own.
  • LCHIEN
    Internet Fact Checker
    • Dec 2002
    • 20969
    • Katy, TX, USA.
    • BT3000 vintage 1999

    #2
    Hakko makes good stations, this basic one with digital readout and all the featues is les that $90


    this is the cheapest weller at $122 and it doesn't have digital readout and the nice solder tip cleaner.


    Thye're both adjustable, temerature controlled and grounded ESD safe with small tips for finer work. For me, I'd get the Hakko. And I've been an electronics engineer for 40 years.
    Last edited by LCHIEN; 04-24-2015, 06:48 AM.
    Loring in Katy, TX USA
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    • Stytooner
      Roll Tide RIP Lee
      • Dec 2002
      • 4301
      • Robertsdale, AL, USA.
      • BT3100

      #3
      I have a large old weller for bigger jobs and a small no name brand station. I have used both quite a bit for cnc machine building. I don't recall the price on the large iron, but the station was an Ebay buy for about $25 shipped. If you will be using a lot, then a name brand might be worth it, but really the lesser ones work well too.
      Lee

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      • jussi
        Veteran Member
        • Jan 2007
        • 2162

        #4
        How about this Weller?

        I reject your reality and substitute my own.

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        • Stytooner
          Roll Tide RIP Lee
          • Dec 2002
          • 4301
          • Robertsdale, AL, USA.
          • BT3100

          #5
          For me, ergonomics play a big roll in this decision. The station I have is similar to the last Weller link. I would much rather have a more pencil shape iron. I have seen them, held them, but have not used them. If I can hold it like a pencil though, my hand is steady. Not so much with a big grip on it. Of course much of that grip is insulation which is not a bad thing.
          Just personal preference when soldering tiny things. Steady is better than shaky. Another item of usefulness (must have for me) is a magnifying glass on an adjustable stand. Priceless.
          Lee

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          • Zip1
            Forum Newbie
            • Dec 2004
            • 19
            • Milwaukee, WI, USA.

            #6
            For small electronics +1 on the WLC100 above. I've had it for years, love it. Excellent quality for the price.

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            • LinuxRandal
              Veteran Member
              • Feb 2005
              • 4889
              • Independence, MO, USA.
              • bt3100

              #7
              I concur with Loring.
              The Hakko was the recommended by many people in the Raspberry PI community and I picked one up when I found it for under $70.
              My dad has an OLD USA made Weller, and it was having some issues (temp control). I found a newer model at a local store on a bag sale day, and called him and he got a Weller WESD51 for $75.
              He is happy with his, but the Hakko is a better bargain.
              She couldn't tell the difference between the escape pod, and the bathroom. We had to go back for her.........................Twice.

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              • Tom Slick
                Veteran Member
                • May 2005
                • 2913
                • Paso Robles, Calif, USA.
                • sears BT3 clone

                #8
                I use a Weller WES51 at work and have no complaints. At a previous job they used the model prior to the WES51 with the large grip for 10 hrs a day in a production environment. They went to Hakko when we replaced all of the irons for RoHS compliance. I use a WP35 at home with no problems.
                Opportunity is missed by most people because it is dressed in overalls and looks like work. - Thomas Edison

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                • LCHIEN
                  Internet Fact Checker
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 20969
                  • Katy, TX, USA.
                  • BT3000 vintage 1999

                  #9
                  the Weller WLC100 is a power controlled iron.
                  The Hakko and the more expensive Wellers mentioned are temperature controlled irons.

                  The difference is that the power controlled one simply has a knob that increases thw watts of the heater in the tip.

                  THe temperature controlled one has temperature feed back and the knob adjusts the temperature point and the electronics adjusts the power to keep the temperature the same at the tip (where the sensor is) as you try and solder a big terminal joint for example, but it will not overheat a small surface mount IC lead.

                  For microelectronics where you might ever be soldering to diodes, transistors, ICs or batteries and battery tabs I would get the temperature controlled iron, if you are just soldering wires then the power controlled on is OK.

                  AS you can see the power controlled ones are under $50 and the temperature controlled ones are under $100. The nicer temperature controlled ones (like the Hakko discussed) have a temperature readout or at least a calibrated dial around the knob so that you can repeatedly use the same temperature for the type of solder you use.

                  Incidentally the Hakko 888 is available at Amazon, too.
                  Last edited by LCHIEN; 04-25-2015, 02:06 AM.
                  Loring in Katy, TX USA
                  If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                  BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                  • jussi
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 2162

                    #10
                    Thanks. Based on the replies I'll prob go with the more expensive unit.

                    What settings do you guys use? Is there a chart depending on the piece being soldered?
                    I reject your reality and substitute my own.

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                    • LCHIEN
                      Internet Fact Checker
                      • Dec 2002
                      • 20969
                      • Katy, TX, USA.
                      • BT3000 vintage 1999

                      #11
                      Originally posted by LCHIEN
                      Hakko makes good stations, this basic one with digital readout and all the featues is les that $90


                      this is the cheapest weller at $122 and it doesn't have digital readout and the nice solder tip cleaner.


                      Thye're both adjustable, temerature controlled and grounded ESD safe with small tips for finer work. For me, I'd get the Hakko. And I've been an electronics engineer for 40 years.

                      All-spec the seller of the iron s mentioned here has a promo code of "solders" which will get you an add'l $5 off 50 on Hakko purchase.
                      Loring in Katy, TX USA
                      If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                      BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                      • gerti
                        Veteran Member
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 2233
                        • Minnetonka, MN, USA.
                        • BT3100 "Frankensaw"

                        #12
                        Originally posted by jussi
                        What settings do you guys use? Is there a chart depending on the piece being soldered?
                        I have my iron set at 320ºC. Cooler and soldering takes too long (actually bad for the part), higher and the tin oxidizes faster. I only use higher temperatures when:

                        - soldering prototype wire [1] where 350ºC is needed to get melt through the insulation
                        - soldering something with a very large surface area (battery terminals, large gauge wires) that transfer heat away fast, in that case you may need to go to 400ºC

                        Hope that helps!

                        [1]: http://www.verotl.com/en/product/ver...number-79-1732

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                        • LCHIEN
                          Internet Fact Checker
                          • Dec 2002
                          • 20969
                          • Katy, TX, USA.
                          • BT3000 vintage 1999

                          #13
                          My tech at work likes to keep his at about 700F, that's about 370C.

                          THat'll do PCBs with lead free solders (96% tin, 3.5% silver) with higher temperature MPs.

                          Use a slightly lower temperature for 60/40, 63/37 lead /tin solders while you kill the environment.
                          Last edited by LCHIEN; 04-26-2015, 02:00 AM.
                          Loring in Katy, TX USA
                          If your only tool is a hammer, you tend to treat all problems as if they were nails.
                          BT3 FAQ - https://www.sawdustzone.org/forum/di...sked-questions

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                          • gerti
                            Veteran Member
                            • Dec 2003
                            • 2233
                            • Minnetonka, MN, USA.
                            • BT3100 "Frankensaw"

                            #14
                            Originally posted by LCHIEN
                            Use a slightly lower temperature for 60/40, 63/37 lead /tin solders while you kill the environment.
                            Well, so I happen to have a rather large supply of my favorite multicore left that far predates all the lead worries... There hasn't been terribly much soldering in the last few years, and a pound goes a long way!

                            Yes I expect lead free solders to need a somewhat higher temperature.

                            And so do those super-thin needle points that are all the rage, because they lack surface to transfer the heat to the work piece. So be sure to learn how to use a chisel tip: flat for fastest heat transfer (faster soldering yet less heat into the component), or at a compound angle for a smaller contact point to do more delicate work. Also solder mask and surface tension are your friends...

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                            • tfischer
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 2343
                              • Plymouth (Minneapolis), MN, USA.
                              • BT3100

                              #15
                              Check out the soldering stations at Circuit Specialists. I've been using one for maybe 5 or 6 years now and it's excellent.

                              Here's one I'd recommend:
                              The CSI-2900 is compatible with all lead-free alloy solder and standard solder. It has excellent thermal recovery without a large increase in tip temperature and utilizes an integrated ceramic heater, sensor, control circuit and tip for greater efficiency, along with a highly dependable 24V output transformer. The effortless replacement of soldering tips makes for quick changes and the optional shutdown setting turns the unit off after 30 min. of idle time.


                              But check out the others there as well as you can pay a little more or a little less depending on what features you might like.

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