Stop the clicking when lowering the blade

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  • RickT
    Established Member
    • Jun 2003
    • 175
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    Stop the clicking when lowering the blade

    I decided to thoroughly clean and lube my saw. I disassembled the entire blade elevation/tilt and motor assembly. While I had it apart, I thought about ways I could stop the clicking when lowering the blade. I ended up simply bending the end of the spring that rides against the roll pin used to engage the blade elevation/tilt mechanism. I reassembled everything this afternoon, and the saw elevatation works smoother and quieter than ever. No more clicking. The spring on the left in the picture below shows a slignt bend at the end, which creates a smooth transition in both directions.

  • hobkirk
    Forum Newbie
    • Jul 2005
    • 85
    • Acton, MA, home of the original Minuteman - about 20 miles West of Boston

    #2
    Superb! And fantastic cleaning. Now I might be forced to face the music and do mine (and maybe the transition from elevation to angle will work more smoothly).
    Doug Hobkirk
    WOOD LOON

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    • RickT
      Established Member
      • Jun 2003
      • 175
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      #3
      LOML asked, "Are you sure you know how everything goes back together?" As I reply, "Of course I do," I was thinking to myself, "I sure hope I know how everything goes back together." The manual has a parts diagram, which helped.

      I used denatured alcohol on a shop rag (I like those boxes of paper shop rags from Menards/HomeDepot) to clean most of the parts. I used mineral spirits and OOOO (extra fine) steel wool to clean the machined guides sandwiched between the front and back shims. I then whiped on T-9 (it's excellent for rust prevention and dry lubrication) and waited for it to "dry." If applied heavily, T-9 dries to a waxy film. I applied the T-9 and let it penetrate the parts for a few hours and then I whiped off the excess.

      I wanted to be sure the blade elevation and tilt would work smoothly, and I've tried several lubricants over the past couple of years. I found that GulfWax (paraffin wax / candle wax) works about the best.



      For an even coat of it, I rubbed a bar of the wax on parts I wanted to lube (elevation screw, shims, aluminum casting glides, gears, springs, etc.) and I carefully used a heat gun (hair dryer might work too) just until the wax melted to a clear consistency. It flowed well into the threads of the elevation screw.

      The blade elevation and tilt work better than ever!

      I need to add that LOML helped me when removing the motor assembly. My son helped me reassemble it by holding the motor in position while I set the elevation screw and gear back into the hole in the aluminum casting, put the shims in place, reinstalled the front aluminum cover, and put in the 6 screws. I don't know how some of you guys have done that alone. I also picked up a set of pin punches for removing and reinserting the 2 roll pins: one holding the gear to the elevation screw and the other holding the horizontal shaft at the end opposit the gear. (The gear end of that shaft is held by a set screw.) I initially used a nail to remove the first roll pin, and it was a pain. These made it much, much easier.



      Two other points worth mentioning: First, I found tilting the motor assembly made it a lot easier (possible) to remove the motor and elevation screw. Second, I needed to remove the roll pin holding the elevation screw to the gear before removing the motor, and when I reinstalled the motor and elevation screw, I needed to insert the roll pin after the motor and elevaton screw were in place because the vertical gear was in the way. It's kind of like a puzzle.

      It took some patience, but it was worth the effort. Everything works better than ever.

      Rick

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      • silverfox
        Veteran Member
        • Jul 2003
        • 2863
        • Richland Center WI, USA.
        • BT3100

        #4
        Well, Rick...you have more patience than I and I admire you. I would love to do that but....I probably never will. How long did that take you?? I'll bet that mechanism works smooth as silk now.
        Mike

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        • RickT
          Established Member
          • Jun 2003
          • 175
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          #5
          I worked on it over a week, but total time was probably about 3 hours. It does work as smooth as silk.
          Rick

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          • nlange41
            Forum Newbie
            • Jan 2004
            • 10
            • St. Louis, MO.

            #6
            In my BT3 the elevation stopped working in Dec. I finally got to tear it apart last night and found the casing that the elevation screw goes though is stripped. Guess since I have it all torn down I'll give it a good cleaning too. Thanks for all the good sugestions for cleaning and lubing.

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            • RickT
              Established Member
              • Jun 2003
              • 175
              • .

              #7
              Sorry to hear that. I understand the fix for that can be to drill out the stripped threads and insert a Helicoil threaded insert or acquire a new casting from Ryobi. Here are a couple of links to topics on the repair. Is you saw still under the 2-year warranty?

              Keep us updated

              Thanks,
              Rick



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              • rickd
                Established Member
                • Jan 2004
                • 422
                • Cowichan Bay, 30 mi. north of Victoria, B.C., Canada.
                • Ryobi BT3100

                #8
                quote:Originally posted by RickT

                LOML asked, "Are you sure you know how everything goes back together?"
                Rick
                hi rick,

                i just know i would not get everything back together the right way!!!

                but, thanks for the pics and instructions. i am going to save your post just in case i ever have a problem and have to end up doing what you did. in the meantime, i'll just keep clicking along and cleaning and lubing what i can see.

                nice job!
                rick doyle

                Rick's Woodworking Website

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                • nlange41
                  Forum Newbie
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 10
                  • St. Louis, MO.

                  #9
                  quote:Originally posted by RickT

                  Sorry to hear that. I understand the fix for that can be to drill out the stripped threads and insert a Helicoil threaded insert or acquire a new casting from Ryobi. Here are a couple of links to topics on the repair. Is you saw still under the 2-year warranty?

                  Keep us updated

                  Thanks,
                  Rick



                  My BT is 13 years old, way out of 2 year warranty, and still can cut through 6/4 maple. This is the second time the casing stripped. The first time I took it somewhere and they had it for 3 months because Ryobi would not send the part (new casing) because the shop owed money to Ryobi. This time I'm doing the helicoil fix so I can use the saw for another 13 years.

                  Thanks for the links, all information is a big help.

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