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  • atgcpaul
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2003
    • 4055
    • Maryland
    • Grizzly 1023SLX

    Shop Tour and Extreme Makeover [PICS] (Day 1, Sept 18, 2009)

    I have found that embarrassment is a great motivator for me. That's why I'm
    sucking it up and posting BEFORE pictures of my shop. I've debated posting
    shop pics before, but I hope I can trust you guys. PICS at the bottom.

    Anyway, a little history. I've lived in this house for 3 years. It is a two car
    garage that measures roughly 20'W x 22'L. I have nearly 11' ceilings in the
    middle. It is all mine except for a small corner where we keep garden tools
    and the lawnmower. I added a 60A sub and have 20A outlets ring the
    3 walls of the shop every 4-6' feet on 2 20A circuits. There is a dedicated
    20A circuit for the HF DC with Winn filter. The Grizzly G0513 bandsaw and
    G1023SLX tablesaw share a 220V 20A circuit using two different outlets. The
    lights and openers are on 2 separate circuits.

    I insulated the walls and covered them with OSB. My dad helped me insulate
    the ceiling and put in drywall. This makes winter bearable but a little electric
    space heater helps a lot. I also have a window AC unit.

    I built the cabinets and workbenchs after moving in and they are the only
    things not mobile. You can barely make out the Ryobi CMS in the 2nd pic.
    The big workbench, tablesaw, bandsaw, planer, and tool cabinet are all on
    wheels or commercial mobile bases. The TS might as well be stationary, but
    I went a little nuts buying the TS and bandsaw when we moved in. I enjoy
    the extra height. It's not a pain to move the BS if needed.

    As you can see, I'm messy. Let's be honest, I'm not good about putting
    things back--except at my paying job, and I'm a packrat. I haven't built
    anything of worth in here in almost a year. I have been occupied with a 700
    sqft patio and porch extension for the past year. Now that I'm done with
    those and freshly back from vacation, I have projects waiting to be built and
    this junk heap to contend with. I hope you guys provide me with some
    encouragement and any insight in how to proceed. I'm not a grand
    schemer. I know I have an end product--cleaner (notice I didn't say clean),
    more organized shop.

    The first project I have been wanting to tackle is an improved outfeed table
    for the TS. It has been a 1/2" sheet of MDF on 2 knockdown sawhorses for
    the past 3 years. The TS is almost 36" high. My workbench is 39" tall and
    has my vise (I do do hand joinery when possible). Luckily, the workbench was
    built in modules (Wood or Workbench mag plans) so the mobile base can be
    removed pretty easily. The bench also has my compressor on the left hand
    side which I have run hose up to a retractable hose reel above the TS.

    Originally, I was going to build a new outfeed station, but the workbench is
    nice to use and it would be a shame to keep it in the corner where it doesn't
    really work because the mobile tool cabinet gets in the way.

    So plan of action:
    1) clean off existing outfeed table and workbench
    2) remove base of workbench and replace with leveling feet.
    3) build bridge to fill gap between TS and workbench.

    I don't like that the workbench won't be mobile anymore but I will devise
    something later if it needs to be moved. Maybe retractable outboard feet.

    I'll start a new thread when I've finished off those 3 action items. Here are
    my other action items for the future:

    1) Build storage racks for dedicated garden tool stuff.
    2) Fill void under existing TS extension table with drawers/cubbies for TS and
    router table accessories.
    3) Work out something for DC piping.

    And now the pics:



    To my right is wall storage for lumber on adjustable shelving. In the back
    corner, you can kinda' see my soon to be converted workbench. In the
    foreground is the current outfeed table and TS.





    Here's a shot from the side entry door. In the back are the shop cabinets I
    built around doors salvaged from the Habitat for Humanity Restore. Yes, there
    is a 14' canoe hanging from the ceiling.




    Finally, here is the workbench that is soon to be an outfeed table. It's a rock
    solid bench with one vise and a HEAVY torsion box top with replaceable
    hardboard insert.

    Hopefully, noone's head exploded after witnessing these pics. I told you I was
    messy. Hopefully that will change. I'll post in a new thread when there is an
    update.

    Paul
  • JR
    The Full Monte
    • Feb 2004
    • 5633
    • Eugene, OR
    • BT3000

    #2
    I got nothin' for you, man. Well, one thing. I have that same step stool/ladder thing. Don't step on it. You'll probably fall down.

    That workbench looks very nice. I agree it would be a good thing to have it out where you can get around it when finishing, and doing double duty as outfeed (is that what you propose?).

    Do you have the eventual layout fixed in your mind? If not, it might be a good time to break out Grizzly's layout tool.


    JR
    Last edited by JR; 09-18-2009, 05:52 PM.
    JR

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    • crokett
      The Full Monte
      • Jan 2003
      • 10627
      • Mebane, NC, USA.
      • Ryobi BT3000

      #3
      Your shop looks like my basement shop, and for much the same reasons - too busy with house-related projects. Speaking from experience in cleaning up messes like that, the first thing to do is get a big trash can and start putting stuff in it. If it is a cutoff that you aren't going to use in the next 6months, toss it. If it is some broken part you saved from 2 years ago thinking you would fix it, toss it. The next thing is to pick one area and clean it. Then pick another and repeat until everything is clean. Just be careful you aren't moving the mess/stuff from place to place.
      David

      The chief cause of failure in this life is giving up what you want most for what you want at the moment.

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      • Pappy
        The Full Monte
        • Dec 2002
        • 10453
        • San Marcos, TX, USA.
        • BT3000 (x2)

        #4
        I read where you mentioned a table saw several times. I am assuming that there is one buried somewhere in there! Mine is bad but mostly with project materials. I have to most tools and supplies put away in order access anything.
        Don, aka Pappy,

        Wise men talk because they have something to say,
        Fools because they have to say something.
        Plato

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        • dbhost
          Slow and steady
          • Apr 2008
          • 9236
          • League City, Texas
          • Ryobi BT3100

          #5
          Whoah... Your mess makes me look goooood....
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          • Uncle Cracker
            The Full Monte
            • May 2007
            • 7091
            • Sunshine State
            • BT3000

            #6
            Originally posted by Pappy
            I read where you mentioned a table saw several times. I am assuming that there is one buried somewhere in there!
            I think you'll find it just south of the Biesmeyer in a couple of those photos...

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            • RodKirby
              Veteran Member
              • Dec 2002
              • 3136
              • Melbourne, Victoria, Australia.
              • Mao Shan TSC-10RAS

              #7
              Mmmmmmmmmmm
              Downunder ... 1" = 25.4mm

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              • pbui3057
                Established Member
                • Jul 2008
                • 114
                • Mather, CA
                • BT3000

                #8
                After some of these responses, I'm glad I didn't post photos of my "shop!" lol!

                Keep at it, you'll get there before you know it!

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                • Hellrazor
                  Veteran Member
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 2091
                  • Abyss, PA
                  • Ridgid R4512

                  #9
                  Originally posted by RodKirby
                  Mmmmmmmmmmm
                  Something wrong Rod?

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                  • radhak
                    Veteran Member
                    • Apr 2006
                    • 3061
                    • Miramar, FL
                    • Right Tilt 3HP Unisaw

                    #10
                    I think you are where I was last year, and I am only fractionally better now .

                    You have a good game plan, but you need some preparation.

                    After David's suggestion (trash can), you need a cabinet; yes, another one if all those in the pics are already full. Something tall would be great ($65 at HD), if not, whatever any unused wall space allows. Or at the very least, large storage boxes. These I labeled (in large) - 'Glue/Paint/Finish' or 'DC accessories' or 'Hand Power Tools' etc. When you clear any surface, don't move them to another surface. Move them to assigned areas. Doesn't matter if you can't arrange neatly within the cabinet/box, they need to be contained where assigned - that way, when you 'find' yet another glue bottle, you know where it should go.

                    I made my goal to keep all horizontal surfaces clear of stuff - that told me how much of holding space I needed.

                    My motivator has been a picture of Rod Kirby's garage from his thread:



                    Not that I'm anywhere close, but a person can dream ! Thanks Rod!
                    It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.
                    - Aristotle

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                    • just started
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 642
                      • suburban Philly

                      #11
                      Originally posted by radhak
                      I think you are where I was last year, and I am only fractionally better now .

                      You have a good game plan, but you need some preparation.

                      After David's suggestion (trash can), you need a cabinet; yes, another one if all those in the pics are already full. Something tall would be great ($65 at HD), if not, whatever any unused wall space allows. Or at the very least, large storage boxes. These I labeled (in large) - 'Glue/Paint/Finish' or 'DC accessories' or 'Hand Power Tools' etc. When you clear any surface, don't move them to another surface. Move them to assigned areas. Doesn't matter if you can't arrange neatly within the cabinet/box, they need to be contained where assigned - that way, when you 'find' yet another glue bottle, you know where it should go.

                      I made my goal to keep all horizontal surfaces clear of stuff - that told me how much of holding space I needed.

                      My motivator has been a picture of Rod Kirby's garage from his thread:



                      Not that I'm anywhere close, but a person can dream ! Thanks Rod!
                      That's a store display, you can't fool me (I may have been born at night, but not last night)!

                      Paul, that looks exactly like my shop, except mine is half that size and with a 6'6" ceiling height.

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                      • Richard in Smithville
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 3014
                        • On the TARDIS
                        • BT 3100

                        #12
                        I've been there and still am to some degree. I have a one car garage( or it would be if all you drove was a chevette) and I have found that tool mobility is the answer. Also I have built duel function tool stations. Most have storage underneath or have been positioned so work surfaces can be used for support under longer project sections. Everything except the TS fits in a spot against the wall and rolls out when needed. I also utilize the top of my driveway in good weather as extended work area.
                        From the "deep south" part of Canada

                        Richard in Smithville

                        http://richardspensandthings.blogspot.com/

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                        • dbhost
                          Slow and steady
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 9236
                          • League City, Texas
                          • Ryobi BT3100

                          #13
                          Any progress to report yet?
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                          • atgcpaul
                            Veteran Member
                            • Aug 2003
                            • 4055
                            • Maryland
                            • Grizzly 1023SLX

                            #14
                            Originally posted by dbhost
                            Any progress to report yet?
                            That's a good question! I think I'm making a bigger mess cleaning up.
                            Tonight is my 8th wedding anniversary so no shop time. Worth it.

                            Anyway, quick update. First, thank you for all the words of encouragement.
                            I hope I didn't give Rod a stroke. You guys were actually nicer than I expected.

                            Half of the stuff on the two surfaces actually has a home in the cabinets in
                            the back. I spent the rest of Friday finding homes for it. I had an outing on
                            Saturday so no work then. Sunday was busy but got some stuff done after
                            church and before dinner.

                            My HF DC switch died in the middle of the cleaning. I salvaged a switch off a
                            dead HF drill press and was off and running again.

                            I moved the workbench in back of the saw and started to dismantle it. Then
                            I decided I wanted to keep the workbench mobile. You never know, right?
                            This means I had to raise the TS to its max height of 35 1/2". However, the
                            workbench is over 38" tall. So I've spent Monday and a bit of tonight (before
                            the wife got home) stripping the bench down to its base modules and trying
                            to figure out how to shave off 2 1/2". I've got just an 1" to go then I can
                            put the whole thing back together.

                            So a simple disassembly is becoming a major project.

                            I also discovered a huge ant colony (with eggs) underneath the workbench
                            when I wheeled it out of the way. Spent some time killing off those
                            buggers. Don't get me started on the number of spiders underneath the
                            bench. Still got the heebeejeebees.

                            I've hit a few snags but I'm hopeful I can shave off that last inch. I'll post
                            pics when the saw and bench are back together.

                            Paul

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